Barbie
Wilde is probably best known for her role as the female Cenobite in Hellbound:
Hellraiser II. With a number of film roles under her belt, she is now tackling
the literary world with her first book The Venus Complex. The story
centers on serial killer, Michael Friday, and his erotically charged crimes.
The
story is a taught thriller that was surprisingly steamy considering the content
being so brutal. The characters are complex and dark. The erotic nature of the crimes are very
steamy and worth reading. I had the opportunity to correspond with Barbie and
talk to her about her book and career.
You were the
female Cenobite in Hellbound: Hellraiser
II. How did you come to get cast in that part?
I
think that the producers were looking for people who had some kind of dance or
mime training, as the received wisdom at the time was that mime artists were
more capable with handling the prosthetic makeup process. I was a classically
trained mime, as well as an actress, which is why I think that I was asked to
audition.
I
met with Tony Randel and we had a chat. I actually knew what the word
“Cenobite” meant, which was a plus. (It means a member of an order, normally a
religious order.) And so I got the part. Pretty simple, as auditions go!
How long did it take in makeup for that
role?
The
prosthetic makeup process took four hours to apply and we needed half an hour
to lace me into the Female Cenobite costume. Of course, this doesn’t take into
account the hours of preparation: the casting of my head so the makeup crew
could design and make the prosthetic pieces specifically for my face, makeup
tests, costume fittings, etc.
What goes through your mind as a
performer bringing a role as a scary as a cenobite to life?
So
many things... Spencer Tracy once advised actors to just learn their lines and
don’t bump into the furniture. (But of course, he was a superb actor who did a
hell of a lot more than that on screen.)
The
thing about playing the Female Cenobite for me was that the extraordinary
makeup really informed my performance. Looking into the mirror for the first
time and seeing that blue-skinned, ravaged face, bald head, a pin through my
nose, and metal jewelry holding open the bloody wound in my throat really made
a strong impression on me. It was an extreme image and it made me feel
powerful. Also the way the makeup was glued to my skin made me feel quite
claustrophobic, which again, added to the performance in some way. As research,
I read Clive Barker’s The Hellbound Heart,
the novella that was the basis for the Hellraiser
films. The Lead Cenobite in the book was a female, which I found very
interesting.
You have interviewed a number of famous
musicians during your television hosting days. Who were some of the most memorable
to speak with?
John
Lydon (AKA Johnny Rotten from the Sex Pistols). He was adorable, totally
professional and very funny. He was also game for anything. (I interviewed him
in a giant net for the TV show Hold Tight.)
Totally at odds with his bad boy image.
Iggy
Pop and the B52s were great fun as well. There was also the “Elvis” of British
pop, Cliff Richard. We’re both big Star
Trek fans, so we were able to geek out about our favorite TV show.
The film Grizzly II was never completed but has
garnered a cult following. Have you ever been recognized for your performance
in that film despite it not being completed?
Well,
I’m recognizable in a few scenes, but the big scenes were when I was on stage
as the drummer of an electronica band were all long shots, so you don’t see
much of me. (Meanwhile, the grizzly bear was feasting on various audience
members on the edges of the crowd.)
I
think that the Grizzly II’s cult
status is more to do with the fact that very early on in their careers, George
Clooney, Laura Dern, and Charlie Sheen played “Red Shirts” who got munched by
the bear in the beginning of the film.
What was it like to meet Morcambe and
Wise?
They
were fabulous. Considering they were icons of British comedy, both Eric and
Ernie were very down-to-earth and adorable. I had a lot of fun playing a store
mannequin that comes to life and dances with them in their show.
What are some
of your favorite films?
Almost
too many to mention! Well, recent films that I’ve liked tremendously and would
love to view again are Interstellar
and Maps to the Stars. (I was lucky
enough to see Maps to the Stars in
Toronto and David Cronenberg did a Q&A afterwards.) If I had to list a few
more, then: Sin City, The Talented Mr Ripley, Casablanca, The Big Sleep, some films by Hitchcock (Psycho, Rear Window, North By
Northwest, Dial M For Murder) and
any film by Quentin Tarantino.
Favorite
horror films would be: Hellraiser (of
course), The Haunting (1963), The Innocents (1961), Audition, The Ring, Sinister, American Mary, The Ninth Gate and From Dusk
til Dawn. I also like Sci-fi horror like Alien, The Day the Earth
Stood Still (1951), The Invasion of
the Body Snatchers (1956) and The
Thing (1951 & Carpenter’s 1982 version).
You were in Death Wish 3. Did you have a chance to meet Charles Bronson?
We
met on set and we did some scenes together, but we really didn’t have time to
chat. His wife, Jill Ireland, was quite ill at the time and every moment that
he didn’t have to be on set, he was with her.
What got you
started studying mime and working with the SHOCK Troupe?
I
was in London, England, studying acting, and a friend recommended some mime
classes taught by Desmond Jones at the Dance Centre in Covent Garden. I went to
some of his classes and eventually was invited to join Desmond’s mime troupe,
SILENTS. We worked around London in Fringe Theatre venues and our performances
culminated in a week long residency at the Arts Theatre Club in Leicester
Square. The maestro of mime himself, Marcel Marceau, came to see us, which was
pretty cool.
My
partner at the time, Tim Dry (Star Wars,
Xtro), and I branched out with a
double act and then we were asked to join SHOCK, a mime/dance/music group that
also featured Robert Pereno, LA Richards and Carole Caplin. We ended up signing
a record deal with RCA and released a couple of singles in the 1980s. We also
toured a lot, supporting such artists as Gary Numan, Depeche Mode, Ultravox,
and Adam and the Ants.
If you could work on any film throughout
history, which would you choose?
I
would have loved to have been Lauren Bacall in The Big Sleep.
What led to the writing of your crime
novel The Venus Complex?
I’ve
always been fascinated by the psychopathic mind and serial killers. I consider
myself quite an empathic individual, so knowing that there are humans out there
who seem to be incapable of making emotional connections, who regard the rest
of us as sheep, really intrigued me.
What
I wanted to do with The Venus Complex
was to show the serial killer’s mindscape, his motivations, his inner turmoil
and his twisted sexual fantasies, which I felt hadn’t been addressed in most of
the serial killer novels that I’d read. That’s why I chose to write the book in
the first person, which was a bit of a challenge!
Has the reception of your book been
positive?
I’ve
been very pleased that The Venus Complex
has received such fabulous reviews from Rue Morgue, Fangoria, etc. Although my
lead character, Art History Professor Michael Friday, starts out as a regular
guy, he really spirals down into some seriously murderous behavior and
politically incorrect rants at the world. Yet people do seem to relate to him
in positive ways. And Fangoria has called me “one of the finest purveyors of erotically
charged horror around,” which is an amazing accolade.
Michael Friday
is a largely unpleasant person with massive anger issues. What drove you to
write about a character that seems to have so many problems?
As
mentioned before, I find criminal motivations very compelling. Ever since I
first found out about serial killers decades ago, I wanted to know what made
them tick. There is no one answer to that question, so I felt that I had to
explore this kind of character in fiction.
Did you study
criminal psychology prior to writing The Venus Complex?
I
read 67 books about criminal psychology, forensic techniques, homicide
detection manuals, etc. I interviewed a detective from the Manhattan North
Police Precinct in NYC, as well as a few forensic psychologists. Also, a friend
of mine, who was a professional dominatrix, was very helpful in my research. In
fact, her statement to me that her greatest sexual fantasy was to sleep with a
serial killer was the inciting incident that kick-started the idea for The
Venus Complex.
In your novel, you compare modern
civilization to ancient Rome, where people only care for food and
entertainment. Is this something you feel as well, or simply the character?
I
think that when writing fiction, it’s almost as if you’re doing an acting job.
You have to put yourself in the shoes of your character. You have to think as
they would, otherwise you wouldn’t be able fool people into believing that the
character is real. (Catherine Trammell called this “suspension of disbelief” in
another one of my favorite films, Basic
Instinct.)
I
think that Michael got to the point in his life when he was extremely cynical
about humans and their motivations. I am a bit cynical, but not as much as he
is.
If your novel were turned into a film,
whom would you want to play Michael Friday?
I
think that Michael Fassbinder would be a fabulous Michael.
Michael blames
violence in schools on movies and TV. What are your opinions about violence in
the media?
I
am totally against censorship, but I do think that parents should take some
responsibility for what their children are watching and the effects that really
violent shows might have on young minds. However, saying that, I was really
disturbed by some sci-fi movies that I watched as a kid and I didn’t turn out
to be an ax murderer! However, I am not a man. Violence seems to be an easy
option for men, young men in particular. You only have to observe what is
happening all over the world to wonder whether TV, or movies, or video games
don’t feed into this adoration of violence.
Of
course, there are also the viruses of tribalism, “culture” and tradition that
feed violence, especially against women.
Michael goes on long rants at times
regarding his distaste for religion, pop culture, and greed in politics. Is the
character based on anyone in particular?
No,
I just made up the character and then let him run with his rants. Although I
have to confess, occasionally seeing certain items on the news would spark the
inspiration for a “Michael Rant”.
Michael is
complex - he hates people one minute then is indifferent to them the next
until, finally, he wants to be a “somebody.” Why prompted you to make him care
about fame and infamy if he is indifferent or hates the people around him?
I just wanted to make Michael as realistic as possible. He is a pain in the
ass, funny, contradictory, murderous, stupid, smart, obsessive, infantile, very
clever, sometimes yearning for fame and sometimes desiring anonymity. In other
words, a fairly typical example of the human race!
The Venus Complex has a strong main character comparable
to Catcher in the Rye and the Dexter
novels. Both stories contain a smart character that is disgusted by the
mendacity and stupidity of those around him. Was that intentional? Did either
story influence you in any way?
I
read The Catcher in the Rye years ago and it’s a wonderful book, but I
can’t say that it had any direct influence on me. And to be honest, The
Venus Complex in first draft form
was finished a long time before Dexter
hit the TV screens. (It was a bit of a challenge to find a publisher that
understood me.) I’ve never read the Dexter
novels, so there wasn’t any influence there.
The
non-fiction books that made the biggest impression on me were The Order of
the Assassins and The Criminal History of Mankind – both by Colin
Wilson. As far as fiction is concerned, I loved The Red Dragon by Thomas
Harris because he really delved into the character of the serial killer,
Francis Dolarhyde, in that book. I’ve always been more interested in the
whydunnit, than the whodunit.
Fiction
authors that I admire are: Shirley Jackson (The Lottery, The Haunting of Hill House),
Patricia Highsmith (The Talented Mr Ripley, Strangers on a Train),
Dashiell Hammett (The Thin Man), Raymond Chandler (The Big Sleep)
and Clive Barker (The Hellbound Heart, Cabal, Weaveworld)
and finally Ernest Hemingway for his economical, muscular writing style.
Is this the last we’ll hear of this
particular killer, or will his tales continue in further stories?
People keep asking me about a sequel. I’m giving it some thought…
What projects are you currently working
on?
I’m
writing a screenplay based on one of my short horror stories, “Zulu Zombies”.
“Zulu Zombies” was published late last year in the Bestiarum Vocabulum anthology by Western Legends Press and then
reprinted in Fangoria’s Gorezone #29.
I’m
also putting together an illustrated collection of my short horror stories, as
well as co-writing a musical drama for stage and screen.
Barbie Wilde
can be found on the following:
Website:
www.barbiewilde.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/BarbieWildeAuthorActress
Twitter: @barbiewilde
Youtube:
www.youtube.com/barbiewilde